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Comment on Mark Driscoll Quote by Murray

Murray — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:35:04 +0000

I think the main thing for Mark is to continue to faithfully preach the gospel. He is more concerned for Jesus’ reputation than his own. One day Mark Driscoll will long be forgotten but Jesus will still be on His throne.

Comment on Mark Driscoll Quote by Lyndon Unger

Lyndon Unger — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:28:26 +0000

Hey, I just thought of this comment and wanted to clarify something.

In reading what I said, it sounds really critical and negative. I wasn’t trying to slam Mark Driscoll. I was just wanting more information, and possibly a source to clarify the quote.

I often think I know what people mean from quotes, but I regularly hear other people speak in my own vocabulary. I wanted to apologize for not being more “low key” with the tone.

Writing in a “text only” environment allows one to read whatever ‘tone’ they want into things that they read, but also into things that they write.

The second comment, where I said “What’s Mark doing to lead THIS charge? He’s constantly marked by doing foolish things; even Piper has recently admitted that in public.” was out of line and very poorly worded.

What I meant by that is that the people I know, who don’t know much about Mark Driscoll, only know him as the “swearing pastor”. That nickname has preceded him everywhere, and it’s a difficult stigma to escape; most people I know of who have never really listened to him simply say that they don’t like him, but their only reason is that he uses foul language (which isn’t necessarily true as of the past several years).

I’m wondering what steps Mark is taking, in the broad public realm, to change his image as the “swearing pastor”? I’m all the more curious because I recently heard Piper speak on how Mark still is “in progress” and “doesn’t use wisdom with his mouth” that much.

From my limited exposure, it seems that Mark isn’t being spoken of highly, at least in the realm of keeping a pure mouth, by the people who are discipling him directly. In no way would I suggest “throwing him under the bus” like some are doing, but I’m honestly curious as to what he says that he’s doing about his “swearing pastor” image.

Comment on Mark Driscoll Quote by Lyndon Unger

Lyndon Unger — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:00:38 +0000

That’s interesting and strange talk…and like much of what I hear Driscoll say, I’m not sure what it parts of it really mean.

“We want to influence churches to hope for more, plan for more, and demand more, because Jesus is alive and that fact changes everything.”

More what? More Influence? More Righteousness? More Victory?

“And we want to influence men to be godly men and not simply another face in the fools’ parade.”

What’s Mark doing to lead THIS charge? He’s constantly marked by doing foolish things; even Piper has recently admitted that in public.

Is he talking about academic foolishness? Personal? Theological?

Comment on Arrived in San Diego by Scott

Scott — Tue, 05 May 2009 12:39:26 +0000

Lucky.

Comment on Are we a “grace” fellowship? by Kiley

Kiley — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:05:18 +0000

Yep… I think that the Sword of the Spirit still has it’s amazing cutting power! We are a people who have been shown tremendous grace! Why do we have such trouble doing the same??? We who have been forgiven much, ought to love much! God is so patient and long-suffering toward us. May we continue to press toward the high and upward calling of Jesus Christ! (rather than get bogged down by the mucky slime of this world which is passing away). Lord, Let us become known in our community as loving, transparent, and gracious.

Comment on Are we a “grace” fellowship? by Mikey

Mikey — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:43:28 +0000

Ouch… Excuse me while I remove the plank from my eye.

Comment on In God we do not trust. by Mikey

Mikey — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:40:43 +0000

I can honestly say I never thought of it that way. So would spoiling my ballot be like, “I don’t need you and your lies you hypocritical false “saviors”. Get behind me!”?

Comment on Are we a “grace” fellowship? by Jan

Jan — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:18:03 +0000

Thank you Murray. The thing I wonder about is if people are “secretly hurting”… Why is it that it is easier for some to share their burdens, worries and concerns with people outside of Grace Fellowship rather than within it? Do we present ourselves as hard, judgemental and uncaring? My self examination is about whether I “talk” grace, kindness and gentleness, but if others see something else in my life that hinders them from being willing to share. Is my love for the family shallow, so that in reality I am more important to myself than others are important to me. I hope that as I examine myself, both as an individual and as part of Grace Fellowship, that I will not find this to be the case, but if I do,that my attitude will be one of immediate repentance.
I do want to say to you my brothers and sisters, that I have love for each of you. Please help me if I am blind to my own sins. I long to be more like Christ, and I long for Grace Fellowship to be a community of grace.

Comment on Are we a “grace” fellowship? by Julie

Julie — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:48:25 +0000

OUCH! Yup! This needs more than just a quick glance; it needs some serious self examination done with a humble and repentant heart. It feels to me that we can and perhaps do lean on the performance side a little too often. I suppose it is part of the temptations of this world.
But whatever the cause, may we strive, through prayer and self examination, to be a community of Grace.

Comment on Troublesome quote by Joseph Krygier

Joseph Krygier — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:34:58 +0000

Great quote.
Glad you are blogging.
I will be visiting later and catch up.
I just added a new entry as well. Called it Pass the Salt and Piper
Have been silent for along while.
But hope to be more regular.
Joe